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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Mohammed was a child molesting cunt
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Aviroce
2008-05-04 04:38:21 UTC
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B. H. Cramer (***@them'oment.bizz) posted the following
information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that
the
Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. On one of his
whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular
prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a
bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to
her,
crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the
prostitute
farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as this gas
will
never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven."
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the
rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor
toilet)
a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long
enough
to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for
that
time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should
"take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if
he
can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it
loosens the limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass
between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm
trees.
Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting
at
a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following
prayer
every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a
slave.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b.
Claims
that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of
Bethar.
Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in
scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates
that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time,
much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
A Revealing Admission
Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine
stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the
fact
that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine
would
make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is
permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in
Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf.
Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).
Pharisaic Rituals
Erubin 21b. "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my
hands."
"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it
suffice for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words
of
the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die
than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This
is
the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
Genocide Advocated by the Talmud
Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi
Simon
ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles
should
all be killed").
This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as
quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and
Wagnalls
and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
reading
has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally
substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the
heathens" (Minor
Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of
Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination
of
non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians,
including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein
was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS
News
that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud."
(CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and
Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they
commit
violence against goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News,
Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
blood
and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6,
1989,
p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human
The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human
animals, and specifically dehumanizes Gentiles as not being
descendants
of Adam. Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate to this
topic.
Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have taught: He
who
pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if
over
gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to
cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the flesh of
man
(Adam), shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and cattle and
vessels
are not man (Adam).
"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt,
since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why
is
one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the
category
of man (Adam)? No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep of my
pasture, are man" (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam)
but
gentiles (goyim) are not called man (Adam)."
In the preceding passage, the rabbis are discussing the portion of
the
Mosaic law which forbids applying the holy oil to men.
The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to
Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of
Adam).
Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so
did
R. Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim)
do
not impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over
a
grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are
men (Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the
idolaters
are not called men (Adam)."
The Old Testament Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or
the
grave of a human imparts uncleanness to those who touch it. But the
Talmud teaches that if a Jew touches the grave of a Gentile, the Jew
is
not rendered unclean, since Gentiles are not human (not of Adam).
From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard.
When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the
Mosaic
law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits
Jews from coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites),
and
he was standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by
Rabbi
Simon ben Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For
it
is written, 'And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men
(Adam)'
(Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are designated men (Adam)."
Ezekiel 34:31 is the alleged Biblical proof text repeatedly cited in
the
preceding three Talmud passages. But Ezekiel 34:31 does not in fact
support the Talmudic notion that only Israelites are human. What
these
rabbinical, anti-Gentile racists and ideologues have done in
asserting
the preceding absurdities about Gentiles is distort an Old Testament
passage in order to justify their bigotry.
In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-
human
status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man)
who
reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since
revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of
Judaism.
The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-
text"
is specious, since the passage does not prove that Gentiles are
animals.
The passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had large
genital
organs and copious emissions. This does not in any way prove or even
connote that the Egyptians being referred to in the Bible were
considered animals. Once again, the Talmud has falsified the Bible by
means of distorted interpretation.
Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this racist
fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a,
Yebamoth 98a. Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies
God's
approval only to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-
shas,
Cracow, 1894).


Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination
We will now examine the post-Talmudic commentator Rambam (Moses
Maimonides). This revered "sage" taught that Christians should be
exterminated. He has the highest stature in Judaism:
"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher
in
Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam,
after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon,
"Our
Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles, edited by Aryeh
Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].
Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's
lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and
Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration"
of
the Talmud:
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn,
New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184:
"Accordingly,
if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the
river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger,
we
should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of
Mishnah Torah states this as well.
Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews
not
to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the
Talmudic
duty of Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who deny the
Talmud. Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:
"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish
traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the
pit
of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the
people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."
The Jewish publisher's commentary accompanying the preceding
statement
of Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural:
minnim).
The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined
as
those Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the
written law (i.e. the Old Testament).
According to Maimonides' Principles, p. 5, Maimonides "spent twelve
years extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and
arranging
them all into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed
in
1180, and was called Mishnah Torah, or "Code of the Torah."
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles
are
not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by
carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey
uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse
uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a
corpse
he is as one who did not touch it.
"To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or
overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but
to
any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are
susceptible to any uncleanness." (The Code of Maimonides, vol. 10,
translated by Herbert Danby, Yale University Press, New Haven, 1954,
pp.
8-9).
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: "A Jew who killed
a
righteous gentile is not executed in a court of law. It says in
Exodus
21:14, 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man
deliberately, take him away from the altar and put him to death.' But
a
gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not
executed
for killing an unrighteous gentile."


The Schindler's List Quote
The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a
restricts
the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot
Ha-shas), notes that some Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:
"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he
had
destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single
human being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."
However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic
words of the original Talmud.
In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the
authentic text of the Talmud and thus, for example, this universalist
version which Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List
attributed to the Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on
posters and in advertisements), is a hoax and constitutes propaganda
intended to give a humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its
essence, racist and chauvinist hate literature.
In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever
preserves
a single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an entire
world"
(emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions only the
saving
of Jewish lives.


Jewish Deception and Dissimulation
The response of the orthodox rabbis to documentation regarding the
racism and hatred in their sacred texts is simply to brazenly lie, in
keeping with the Talmud's Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may
use
lies ("subterfuge") to circumvent a Gentile.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a multi-million dollar rabbinical
propaganda center dispatched Rabbi Daniel Landes in 1995 to deny that
the Talmud dehumanizes non-Jews. "This is utter rot," he said. His
proof? Why, his word, of course.
Lying to "circumvent a Gentile" has a long patrimony in Judaism. Take
for example the 13th century Talmud debate in Paris between Nicholas
of
Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity, whom Hyam Maccoby admits had
"a
good knowledge of the Talmud" ( "The Jews on Trial," p. 26) and Rabbi
Yehiel. Yehiel was not under threat of death, bodily injury,
imprisonment or fine. Yet he brazenly lied during the course of the
debate.
When asked by Donin whether there were attacks on Jesus in the
Talmud,
Yehiel denied that there were any. Donin, a Hebrew and Aramaic
scholar,
knew this to be false. Hyam Maccoby, a 20th century Jewish
commentator
on the debate, defends Rabbi Yehiel's lying in this way:
"The question may be asked, however, whether Yehiel really believed
that
Jesus was not mentioned in the Talmud, or whether he put this forward
as
an ingenious ploy in the desperate situation in which he found
himself...It would certainly have been pardonable of the rabbi to
attempt some condonation in which he did not fully believe, to
prevent
such tyrannical proceedings by one religious culture against
another." (
Maccoby, "The Jews on Trial," p. 28).
This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is
justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured
("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish
holy books by Christian investigators is characterized as a
"tyrannical
proceeding."
In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom
Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission
concerning
how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the
authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in
the
Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which
they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption.
Rabbi Marx states that in the version of Maimonides' teachings
published
for public consumption, Maimonides is made to say that whoever kills
a
human being transgresses the law.
But, Rabbi Marx points out "...this only reflects the censured and
amended printed text, whereas the original manuscripts have it only
as
'whoever kills an Israelite."(Tikkun: A Bi-Monthly Jewish Critique
May-June, 1994).
The Jewish book, Hesronot Ha-shas ("that which is removed from the
Talmud"), is important in this regard. (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship of Hebrew Books p. 59).
Hesronot Ha-shas was reprinted in 1989 by Sinai Publishing of Tel-
Aviv.
Hesronot Ha-shas is valuable because it lists both the original
Talmud
texts that were later changed or omitted, and the falsified texts
cited
for Gentile consumption as authentic.
Historian William Popper states: "It was not always that long
passages...were censored...but often single words alone were
omitted...Often, in these cases, another method of correction was
used
in place of omission--substitution." (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship
of Hebrew Books pp. 58-59).
For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the
Talmud sometimes render the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any
number of disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Kushite,
Egyptian,
idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all
non-Jews). Footnotes for certain passages in the Soncino Talmud
translation state: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the
original goy..."
The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud
passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages
are
the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
In 1994, the 80 year old Lady Jane Birdwood was arrested and
prosecuted
in a criminal court in London, England for the "crime" of publishing
in
her pamphlet, The Longest Hatred, the truthful statement that the
Talmud
contains anti-Gentile and anti-Christian passages. (She was accused
of
violating the Public Order Act of 1986).
In the course of her Orwellian thought-crime trial, which was ignored
by
the U.S. media, a rabbi was called as a prosecution witness. The
rabbi
proceeded to flatly deny that the Talmud contained anti-Gentile or
anti-Christian passages and on the basis of the rabbi's "prestige,"
this
elderly and ailing woman was sentenced to three months in jail and
fined
the equivalent of $1,000.
"Judeo-Christian" Response to the Talmud
Neither the modern popes or the modern heads of Protestantism, have
ever
insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the racism
in
the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles
expressed
within it. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have urged the
followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers of the
Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that these Catholic and
Protestant leaders are the worst betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth
today. (Cf. Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke
3:8-9;
Rev. 3:9).


Non-Jews are "Supernal Refuse"
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are
regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as
the
founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are
some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its
mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them
concerns
Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim.
"...medieval Jewish theologians--most notably the poet and
philosopher
Judah Ha-Levi in twelfth-century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in
sixteenth-century Prague--sought to define the Jewish distinction
racially rather than spiritually...this...view, according to which
there
is something innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated in
its
most extreme form by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The founder of
Lubavitcher
Hasidism taught that there is a difference of essence between the
souls
of Jews and the souls of gentiles, that only in the Jewish soul does
there reside a spark of divine vitality.
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a
completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with
no
redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's
teachings
are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives
from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse,
which
is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff
outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles
innately evil.
"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently
evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews,
has
not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New
Republic,
May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of
Shneur
Zalman of Lyady (Northvale, New Jersey, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993)
pp.
108-109.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts
"Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has
provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint
Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the
establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by
disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel
Schneerson.
Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by
Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on
Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that
purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not
subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of
Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald
J.
Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on
Maimonides
[Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].
These courts are to be convened allegedly under the "Noahide Laws"
(proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant with
Noah). The U.S. presidents and Congress urged the adoption of the
"Noahide" Laws as interpreted by Chabad-Lubavitch Grand Rabbi
Schneerson.
Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal
expert, has compared this Public law 102-14 to the "first rays of
dawn"
which "evidence the rising of a still unseen sun."
The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible
world
order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.
It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the
Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to "Noahide law," but the
Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of
falsification that constitutes the Talmud.
Under the Talmud's counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is
forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is
condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest
are
permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code.
(Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).
Furthermore, all non-Jews would have the legal status of ger toshav
("resident alien," cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and
Legend [London: Thames and Hudson, 1991], p. 148), even in their own
land; as for example in occupied Palestine where newly arrived
Khazars
from Russia have an automatic right to housing and citizenship, while
two million Palestinian refugees who either fled or were expelled by
the
Israelis, are forbidden the right of return.
Resident alien status has been clearly delineated in scholarly
articles
in leading Jewish publications. For example, Hebrew University
Professor
Mordechai Nisan, basing his exposition on Maimonides, stated that a
non-Jew permitted to reside in a land ruled by Jewish law "must
accept
paying a tax and suffering the humiliation of servitude."
If Gentiles refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals
their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare
against
their very presence. [Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official
publication
of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].
At a symposium ("Is Autonomy for Resident Aliens Feasible?")
organized
by Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Chief
Rabbi
Shlomo Goren repeated the Talmudic teaching on resident aliens: that
Judaism forbids "granting any national rights" to them. He ruled that
such "Autonomy is tantamount to a denial of the Jewish
religion." (Nadav
Shraggai, Ha'aretz, Oct. 14, 1992).
American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum"
in
Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual
establishment
of a Jewish state religion in the U.S. This "Holocaust museum"
excludes
any reference to holocausts perpetrated by Jewish Communists against
Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe, from 1917 onward.
The focus of the museum is almost entirely on Jewish suffering.
Holocausts perpetrated by Israelis against Arabs in Lebanon and
Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the
U.S.
"Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a
repository of objective historical information.
It is through the rapid emergence of this ostensibly secular but
all-pervasive "Holocaustianity" -- whereby the religion of Judaism is
gaining enormous power and influence as mankind's supreme ethos and
the
creed of God's Holy People.


Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed
Israeli "Torah scholars" have ruled that:
"The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place
in
the World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life
by
virtue of observing their religion...And while the Christians do
generally accept the Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them
(those
who accept the so-called divinity of Jesus) are idolaters according
to
the Torah, punishable by death, and certainly will not enjoy the
World
to Come."
--Israeli Mechon-Mamre website, June 26, 2000; 12 Hayyim Vital St.,
Jerusalem, Occupied Palestine. ("Mechon Mamre is a small group of
Torah
scholars in Israel...").
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Israeli "Mechon-Mamre Torah Scholars," as it
appeared
on their website at http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/gentiles.htm
on
June 26, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the
statement itself suppressed].
Jewish Superstitions
It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is
known as the Babylonian Talmud. As Christians misled by their
Judaizing
preachers and popes are increasingly consulting Jewish rabbinical
sources for a "pure" understanding of the Old Testament, they are
unknowingly consulting the occult.
Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of
Babylon,
from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism
ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism's other sacred book, the
Kabbalah,
is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria,
necromancy and demonology.
The photograph on the cover of this publication's hard copy version
shows an orthodox Jew performing a ritual to transfer his sins to the
chicken he is waving over his head. This is pernicious superstition.
Furthermore, the Israeli "Star of David," is actually nothing of the
kind, but rather an occult hexagram, a yantra of the androgyne, which
became associated with the Khazars in 14th century Bohemia. (The
misnamed "state of Israel" was founded in 1948 in an alliance between
Jewish Communists and atheistic Zionists, with crucial U.N.
recognition
provided by Soviet Communist dictator Joseph Stalin).
Christians might find it eye-opening to visit a Hasidic Jewish area
during "Purim" and observe the grotesque, Halloween-like cavorting.
Though the Purim festival uses the Book of Esther as its supposed
proof-text, in practice the Jewish celebration of Purim is little
more
than a Bacchanal (cf. "Superstitions said legacy from Jewish
ancestors,"
Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 16, 1989, p. 58).
Orthodox rabbis place curses, cast spells and imagine they have
powers
greater than God, derived from their study of the Sefer Yezriah, (a
book
of Kabbalistic magic). Christians are trafficking in Babylonian
paganism
when they defer to the rabbis of Judaism.


Sodomy in the synagogue
From a report published in the Hebrew language Israeli newspaper
Ha'aretz
"...for many years, (Talmud scribe) Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel...sodomized
ultra-Orthodox boys. The greatest rabbis knew - and did nothing...
"At the age of 11, Moisheleh, the strongest fellow in the talmud
torah
(school for ultra-Orthodox boys), went up to Shaiya Brizel and said
to
him: 'Kid, I want you know that your father is not the holy man you
think he is. He is a homo.' ...Brizel was a scion of the Brizel
family,
which founded ...the mysterious organization that imposes moral order
on
the ultra-Orthodox ghetto...
"Had the father, Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel ...contented himself with
homosexual relations with adults, it is reasonable to suppose that we
would never have heard his son's story.
"However, in his book, The Silence of the Ultra-Orthodox, published a
few weeks ago, the son claims that for decades his
father ...sodomized
yeshiva students. He committed the act in empty synagogues during the
hours between prayers and in other places.
"The greatest of the ultra-Orthodox rabbis...like Rabbi Landau and
the
halachic sage Shmuel Halevi Hausner of Bnei Brak, knew and kept
silent.
The father was a Hasid heart and soul, and went to a number of
rebbes.... the twin brother of the rebbe from Rehovot, the Rebbe of
Kretschnif in Kiryat Gat, was happy to accept the father among his
followers. Ultimately, claims Brizel, it was not easy for the Rebbe
from
Kiryat Gat to be picky when he could win such a respected adherent.
"...The proud father with the look of an honored rebbe, who observed
all
the commandments from the slightest to the most important, used to
pray
at a certain yeshiva with the young boys. There, claims Shaiya
Brizel,
he hunted his victims. When the head of the yeshiva discovered the
true
reason that the respected Torah scribe was praying fervently at his
yeshiva, he did not contact the police...
"Before the publication of his book, Shaiya Brizel met with the
yeshiva
head. 'You are right that we covered up for him,' admitted the man.
'I
and a few other rabbis...I was busy trying to calm things down and
hushing up the affair so that it would not get publicized.'
"(The son) published the book using real names. His entire family and
almost all the rabbis appear under their own names. Only the names of
some of the localities and the head of the yeshiva are disguised. To
protect himself from a legal point of view, Brizel held a series of
conversations with members of his family and rabbis, in which he
demanded explanations of why they had covered up for his father's
misbehavior. He secretly recorded all these conversations, even with
his
mother.
"If I had written without the names it would have been fiction and
this
certainly did not suit me," he explained. 'I wanted things to change,
for ultra-Orthodox society to know that it can attempt to hide things
and be hidden, but even if it takes 30 years, a Golem will always
rise
up against its creator and reveal everything. In this case, I was the
Golem.'
"When Rachel Brizel, the daughter of a good Bnei Brak family, married
an
arranged match from the glorious Brizel family, she had no idea that
she
was destroying her own life. After six months, she caught her husband
having sex with another man. In that case, at least it was with an
adult.
"Shaiya Brizel relates that some of the boys with whom his father had
relations sent letters of complaint to their own fathers; in the
discreet ultra-Orthodox society they had no one else to whom they
could
complain.
Shaiya Brizel: author of a book telling of sodomy in the synagogue
"When she read these letters, my mother went out of her mind,' writes
Brizel. 'Every such letter made her want to demand a divorce. Again
and
again batteries of mediators, the Brizel rabbis, would show up, whose
job it was to calm her down so that, heaven forbid, she would not
destroy the good name of the Brizel family.
"They could live with the fact that one of their own had raped
minors,
but for them divorce was an impossible situation.'
"...Twice, once during prayers in a synagogue, and once during a
Gemara
(Talmud) study hour at Rabbi Eliezer Shach's Ponevezh Yeshiva,
ultra-Orthodox men who were strangers to him touched his sexual
organ,
presumably on the assumption that he followed in his father's
footsteps.
The first time, he made a fuss, only to discover that the only thing
that interested the people there was to hush the whole thing up. The
second time, he made do with a whispered warning to the man.
"Shaiya Brizel is now 36 and the father of three; he works as an
accountant.
"His father, 65, was forced to leave home several years ago and
return
to his elderly parents' apartment. Shaiya wrote this book after a
suicide attempt in June.
'For all those years I was half dead. For the past five years I have
been getting psychological treatment. During my talks with the
psychologist I decided that I was going to spew out all this ugliness
in
the form of a book.'
"He took into account that there would be violent reactions to the
book...which only came out a few weeks ago...Brizel suffers from a
serious heart defect, which could cause his death. As a way of
protecting himself, he has deposited a letter with three lawyers that
contains serious allegations about the Eda Haredit, and he has
informed
the relevant people.
"Recently, he has moved to a new apartment, and he lives in the
National
Religious sector of a mixed community of National Religious and
ultra-Orthodox families. Naturally, he started praying at the only
Hasidic synagogue in the settlement. After the book came out,
associates
of the local rebbe (rabbi) informed him that he was persona non
grata.
"Ironically, this same rebbe had come to the area after being
compelled
to leave several other communities on suspicion of having sodomized
his
pupils. In ultra-Orthodox society, revealing that acts of sodomy have
been committed is a far graver offense than committing them.
"On the day the book was published, Brizel met with the head of the
Hachemei Lublin Yeshiva, Rabbi Avraham Vazner. 'He told me that
publishing the book was a million times worse than what my father had
done...'
"Ha'aretz has been unable to obtain a response from Rabbi Yaakov
Yitzhak
Brizel. At his parents' home, a woman replied: "We don't care. Shaiya
is
a liar and there is nothing more to be said."
"Ha'aretz also requested the Brizels' response through the Eda
Haredit
activist Yehuda Meshi- Zahav. By the time the article went to press,
there was no response through this channel either.
"Several weeks ago the father responded to the women's magazine
La'isha,
saying that he would sue the publishers, which has not yet happened.
It
is unlikely that it will happen.
"Shaiya Brizel was ready to put off publication of the book, on
condition that the family sue him in a rabbinical court, in which the
affair would be aired. He has said that no one in the family was
prepared to take up the challenge.
"In the conversation with La'isha, the father said that he was indeed
a
homosexual, 'But I have had treatment and today I am no longer like
that. All this is behind me.'
"In reply to a question as to whether he had sexual relations with
minors, he replied: 'Perhaps I will talk about that some other time.'
He
accused his son Shaiya of being 'the only one who is after me. He has
destroyed my life...He wrote this only for the money. He wanted money
from me...Because of him I separated from my wife.'
"Shaiya's sister, Rivka Hubert, spoke with great anger to the La'isha
reporter about the fact that her brother had revealed the names of
the
persons involved, and declared: 'We deny everything it says in the
book."




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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all ...
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-06 03:28:37 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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2008-05-04 07:38:35 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Mohammed was a child molesting cunt
2008-05-05 05:08:55 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-05 23:41:02 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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B. H. Cramer (***@them'oment.bizz) posted the following
information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. ...

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 10:07:24 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which shitskin's post was canceled.
2008-05-06 10:07:30 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-07 14:21:31 UTC
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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by
the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was
published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp,
practice thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all
those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 18:08:54 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@mweb.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
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\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 03:29:14 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 10:42:46 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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‹(•¿•)› Shoot shitskin muhammadans in the face
2008-05-06 10:42:51 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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elea.namatjira
2008-05-05 11:51:38 UTC
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There have been 4,373 coalition deaths -- 4,065 Americans, two
Australians, 176 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two
Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one
Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five
Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians --
in the war in Iraq as of May 2, 2008, according to a CNN count.
{ Graphical breakdown of casualties }. The list below is the names of
the soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen whose
deaths have been reported by their country's governments. The list
also includes seven employees of the U.S. Defense Department. At least
29,911 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the
Pentagon. View casualties in the war in Afghanistan.
Iraq
April 2008

Cpt. Andrew. R. Pearson
32
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Billings, Montana
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Spc. Ronald J. Tucker
21
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Fountain, Colorado
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Staff Sgt. Bryan E. Bolander
26
1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Bakersfield, California
Killed when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 29, 2008

Staff Sgt. Clay A. Craig
22
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Mesquite, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when he received small-arms fire during combat
operations in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 29, 2008

Pfc. Adam L. Marion
26
171st Engineer Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Mount Airy, North Carolina
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Marcus C. Mathes
26
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Zephyrhills, Florida
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Spc. David P. McCormick
26
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Fresno, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when his forward operating base came under
rocket attack in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Mark A. Stone
22
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Buchanan Dam, Texas
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Pfc. William T. Dix
32
14th Engineer Battalion, 555th Engineer Brigade, I Corps
Culver City, California
Died of injuries suffered in a non-combat related incident at Camp
Buehring, Kuwait, on April 27, 2008. The incident is under
investigation.

Staff Sgt. Shaun J. Whitehead
24
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Commerce, Georgia
Died, of wounds suffered when he encountered a roadside bomb during a
dismounted patrol in Iskandariya, Iraq, on April 24, 2008

Pfc. John T. Bishop
22
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Gaylord, Michigan
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Staff Sgt. Ronald C. Blystone
34
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Springfield, Missouri
Died from wounds suffered when he encountered small arms fire during a
dismounted patrol in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

1st Lt. Timothy W. Cunningham
26
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
College Station, Texas
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Sgt. Guadalupe Cervantes Ramirez
26
2nd Transportation Company, Echelons Above Brigade Support Battalion,
National Training Center Support Brigade Fort
Irwin, California
Died at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident on April 23, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jordan C. Haerter
19
1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Sag Harbor, New York
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Pvt. Ronald R. Harrison
25
703rd Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division
Morris Plains, New Jersey
Died of a non-combat related injury at Forward Operating Base Falcon
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Cpl. Jonathan T. Yale
21
2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Burkeville, Virginia
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Airman Apprentice Adrian M. Campos
22
Helicopter Sea Combat Support Squadron 22
El Paso, Texas
Found dead in Dubai on April 21, 2008, due to a non-combat related
incident. The incident is under investigation.

Spc. Steven J. Christofferson
20
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Cudahy, Wisconsin
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

Sgt. Adam J. Kohlhaas
26
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Perryville, Missouri
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

1st Lt. Matthew R. Vandergrift
28
2nd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Littleton, Colorado
Died from wounds he suffered during combat operations in Basra, Iraq,
on April 21, 2008

Petty Officer 1st Class Cherie L. Morton
40
Naval Security Force, Naval Support Activity Bahrain
Bakersfield, California
Died in Galali, Muharraq, Bahrain, on April 20. The cause of death is
under investigation.

Spc. Benjamin K. Brosh
22
2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Paliwoda, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Spc. Lance O. Eakes
25
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Apex, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jason L. Brown
29
Company B, 3rd Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group
Magnolia, Texas
Killed by a burst of small-arms fire while attempting to enter a
building during an operation to capture an al Qaeda leader in Sama
village, Iraq, on April 17, 2008

Cpl. Richard J. Nelson
23
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Racine, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Lance Cpl. Dean D. Opicka
29
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Waukesha, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Spc. William E. Allmon
25
1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd
Infantry Division
Ardmore, Oklahoma
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 12, 2008

. Merlin German
22
5th Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force
Manhattan, New York
Died on April 11, 2008 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio,
Texas, of wounds he suffered while conducting combat operations in Al
Anbar province, Iraq, on February 22, 2005

Sgt. Jesse A. Ault
28
429th Brigade Support Battalion, Virginia Army National Guard
Dublin, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Tech. Sgt Anthony L. Capra
31
Detachment 63, 688 Armament Systems Squadron
Hanford, California
Died of wounds suffered when he encountered a homemade bomb near
Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Spc. Jacob J. Fairbanks
22
1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat
Team, 101st Airborne Division
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Died of injuries in a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 9, 2008

Spc. Arturo Huerta-Cruz
23
10th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Clearwater, Florida
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Tuz, Iraq, on
April 14, 2008

Spc. Jeremiah C. Hughes
26
1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team
(Stryker), 25th Infantry Division
Jacksonville, Florida
Died of injuries sustained in a non-combat related incident in Abu
Gharab, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Sgt. Shaun P. Tousha
30
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Hull, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeffery L. Hartley
25
1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
3rd Infantry Division
Hempstead, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Kharguliah,
Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Spc. Jason C. Kazarick
30
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Oakmont, Pennsylvania
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Michael T. Lilly
23
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Boise, Idaho
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Maj. Mark E. Rosenberg
32
3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
4th Infantry Division
Miami Lakes, Florida
Killed when his wounds encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Timothy M. Smith
25
4th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th
Mountain Division
South Lake Tahoe, California
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 7, 2008

Sgt. Richard A. Vaughn
22
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
San Diego, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade, homemade bombs and small-arms fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 7, 2008

Capt. Ulises Burgos-Cruz
29
Military Transition Team, 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division
Puerto Rico
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeremiah E. McNeal
23
237th Engineer Company, 276th Engineer Battalion, 91st Troop Command,
Virginia Army National Guard
Norfolk, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 6, 2008

Spc. Matthew T. Morris
23
2nd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Cedar Park, Texas
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Pfc. Shane D. Penley
19
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Sauk Village, Illinois
Died of wounds suffered while on duty at a guard post at Patrol Base
Copper, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Emanuel Pickett
34
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Teachey, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked with indirect fire
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Col. Stephen K. Scott
54
356th Quartermaster Battalion
New Market, Alabama
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Maj. Stuart A. Wolfer
36
11th Battalion, 104th Division
Coral Springs, Florida
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Travis L. Griffin
28
377th Security Forces Squadron, 377th Mission Support Group, 377th Air
Base Wing
Dover, Delaware
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 3, 2008

Afghanistan - The Forgotten War

There have been 793 coalition deaths -- 492 Americans, 5 Australians,
94 Britons, 82 Canadians, 2 Czech, 14 Danes, 16 Dutch, two Estonians,
one Finn, 12 French, 22 Germans, 11 Italians, three Norwegians, three
Poles, two Portuguese, 6 Romanians, one South Korean, 23 Spaniards,
two Swedes -- in the war on terror as of May 2, 2008, according to a
CNN count. Below are the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen and
sailors whose deaths have been reported by their country's
governments. The troops died in support of the U.S.-led Operation
Enduring Freedom or were part of the NATO-led International Security
Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. At least 1,937 U.S. personnel
have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon
April 2008

Sgt. 1st Class David L. McDowell
30
2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment
Ramona, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using small-arms
fire in Baston, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Senior Airman Jonathan A. V. Yelner
24
28th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron
Lafayette, California
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Bagram, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jason Marks
27
4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (Commando)
Yeppoon, Queensland, Australia
Killed during a firefight with Taliban fighters approximately 15.5
miles (25 kilometers) southeast of Tarin Kowt in Oruzgan province,
Afghanistan, on April 28, 2008

Trooper Robert Pearson
22
A Squadron, The Queen's Royal Lancers
Grimsby, England
Killed when his vehicle struck a suspected mine while his unit was
providing security for a resupply convoy returning to Camp Bastion in
Helmand province, Afghanistan, on April 21, 2008

Pfc. Mark Schouwink
22
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Lt. Dennis van Uhm
23
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Sgt. Luke J. Mercardante
35
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Athens, Georgia
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Cpl. Kyle W. Wilks
24
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Rogers, Arkansas
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Graham Livingstone
23
Support Weapons Flight, 3 Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment
Strathclyde, Scotland
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Gary Thompson
51
504 Squadron, Royal Auxiliary Air Force
Nottingham, England
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Pvt. Terry John Street
24
2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
Hull, Quebec, Canada
Killed when his armored vehicle struck a suspected roadside bomb in
the Panjwayi district in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, on April 4,
2008

Sgt. Nicholas A. Robertson
27
Headquarters Service Company, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group
Old Town, Maine
Died on April 3, 2008, at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in
Landstuhl, Germany, of wounds suffered during combat operations near
the Zahn Khan district in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on April 2

“Epidemic of Suicides”
Veterans Combat VA in Lawsuit Seeking Adequate and Timely Healthcare –
Closing Arguments

Civilian Casulties - Iraq

Just Foreign Policy Issues
Over a million {*1,205,025} Iraqis are estimated to have been killed
as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation. Learn More and
Take Action»
*Estimate, click for explaination .

To

John Hopkins School of Public Health { October 11, 2006 report } puts
the count at 650,000, with a range from 400,000 to 900,000.

Exact Count of Civilian Casulties may never be known, as is the case
in every conflict, especially an Invasion by another Country. For it
is the Innocent Civilians and those Defending their Countries {of
which All would be counted if this land were ever invaded} who suffer
the most, during and long after!

Iraq Refugees UNHCR: UNHCR Global Appeal 2008-2009 - Iraq Situation
Filetype: PDF (116k)

All the Deaths, Maimings and Destruction are the Blood on All Our
Hands, No One can escape the Guilt!

March 2008, Febuary 2008, January 2008, December 2007, November 2007,
October 2007, September 2007, August 2007, July 2007, June 2007, May
2007, April 2007, March 2007, Feb. 2007, Jan. 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004,
2003

You can view other Honor Rolls of the Fallen I have posted on my site
{links above}, or from the CNN link at top and the other sources that
you might use or know about.

As Of May 3 2008, There Are 85 Pages w/5 'Silent Honor Rolls' Each,
Number Of Casulties Varies With Each 'Silent Honor Roll'; Many now
have numbers in the teens and twenties, click on graphic.

A Nations Security Does Not Mean A Nation Sets An Example Of Creating
More Hatreds And Enemies By 'Wars Of Choice'
, Nor By Installing And Supporting Dictators, It Leads By The Example
Of Peace And Prevention, Especially As A Democracy, Gaining Friends
And Supporters, And Defends With Force Only When All Other Options Are
Exhausted

97 percent of U.S. deaths in Iraq have occurred after George W. Bush
declared an end to "major combat."
”Mission Accomplished!”

We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want
to dismiss that as "success" that would be your interpretation.
Chuck Hagel

If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to
die, they are too many!

Is 'Funding' Really For Troops?

What Happened To Funding and Oversite For Military/Veteran Care In
Previous Congresses?

Those who take some sort of relief in the "We are fighting them over
there so we won't be fighting them here!", Better Rethink their
Future, or rather their Childrens Future!!

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is," - George W. Bush, Texas
Gov., 1999
" What does it matter to the dead, the orphan, and the homeless
whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
- Mohandas K. Gandhi

The Failed Policies will Haunt Us and the World for Decades!!

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"elea.namatjira" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10f0a144-cb95-40c1-9cb9-***@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
There have been 4,373 coalition deaths -- 4,065 Americans, two
Australians, 176 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two
Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one
Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five
Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians --
in the war in Iraq as of May 2, 2008, according to a CNN count.
{ Graphical breakdown of casualties }. The list below is the names of
the soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen whose
deaths have been reported by their country's governments. The list
also includes seven employees of the U.S. Defense Department. At least
29,911 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the
Pentagon. View casualties in the war in Afghanistan.
Iraq
April 2008

Cpt. Andrew. R. Pearson
32
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Billings, Montana
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Spc. Ronald J. Tucker
21
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Fountain, Colorado
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Staff Sgt. Bryan E. Bolander
26
1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Bakersfield, California
Killed when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 29, 2008

Staff Sgt. Clay A. Craig
22
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Mesquite, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when he received small-arms fire during combat
operations in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 29, 2008

Pfc. Adam L. Marion
26
171st Engineer Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Mount Airy, North Carolina
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Marcus C. Mathes
26
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Zephyrhills, Florida
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Spc. David P. McCormick
26
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Fresno, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when his forward operating base came under
rocket attack in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Mark A. Stone
22
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Buchanan Dam, Texas
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Pfc. William T. Dix
32
14th Engineer Battalion, 555th Engineer Brigade, I Corps
Culver City, California
Died of injuries suffered in a non-combat related incident at Camp
Buehring, Kuwait, on April 27, 2008. The incident is under
investigation.

Staff Sgt. Shaun J. Whitehead
24
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Commerce, Georgia
Died, of wounds suffered when he encountered a roadside bomb during a
dismounted patrol in Iskandariya, Iraq, on April 24, 2008

Pfc. John T. Bishop
22
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Gaylord, Michigan
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Staff Sgt. Ronald C. Blystone
34
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Springfield, Missouri
Died from wounds suffered when he encountered small arms fire during a
dismounted patrol in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

1st Lt. Timothy W. Cunningham
26
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
College Station, Texas
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Sgt. Guadalupe Cervantes Ramirez
26
2nd Transportation Company, Echelons Above Brigade Support Battalion,
National Training Center Support Brigade Fort
Irwin, California
Died at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident on April 23, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jordan C. Haerter
19
1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Sag Harbor, New York
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Pvt. Ronald R. Harrison
25
703rd Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division
Morris Plains, New Jersey
Died of a non-combat related injury at Forward Operating Base Falcon
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Cpl. Jonathan T. Yale
21
2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Burkeville, Virginia
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Airman Apprentice Adrian M. Campos
22
Helicopter Sea Combat Support Squadron 22
El Paso, Texas
Found dead in Dubai on April 21, 2008, due to a non-combat related
incident. The incident is under investigation.

Spc. Steven J. Christofferson
20
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Cudahy, Wisconsin
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

Sgt. Adam J. Kohlhaas
26
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Perryville, Missouri
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

1st Lt. Matthew R. Vandergrift
28
2nd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Littleton, Colorado
Died from wounds he suffered during combat operations in Basra, Iraq,
on April 21, 2008

Petty Officer 1st Class Cherie L. Morton
40
Naval Security Force, Naval Support Activity Bahrain
Bakersfield, California
Died in Galali, Muharraq, Bahrain, on April 20. The cause of death is
under investigation.

Spc. Benjamin K. Brosh
22
2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Paliwoda, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Spc. Lance O. Eakes
25
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Apex, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jason L. Brown
29
Company B, 3rd Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group
Magnolia, Texas
Killed by a burst of small-arms fire while attempting to enter a
building during an operation to capture an al Qaeda leader in Sama
village, Iraq, on April 17, 2008

Cpl. Richard J. Nelson
23
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Racine, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Lance Cpl. Dean D. Opicka
29
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Waukesha, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Spc. William E. Allmon
25
1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd
Infantry Division
Ardmore, Oklahoma
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 12, 2008

. Merlin German
22
5th Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force
Manhattan, New York
Died on April 11, 2008 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio,
Texas, of wounds he suffered while conducting combat operations in Al
Anbar province, Iraq, on February 22, 2005

Sgt. Jesse A. Ault
28
429th Brigade Support Battalion, Virginia Army National Guard
Dublin, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Tech. Sgt Anthony L. Capra
31
Detachment 63, 688 Armament Systems Squadron
Hanford, California
Died of wounds suffered when he encountered a homemade bomb near
Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Spc. Jacob J. Fairbanks
22
1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat
Team, 101st Airborne Division
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Died of injuries in a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 9, 2008

Spc. Arturo Huerta-Cruz
23
10th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Clearwater, Florida
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Tuz, Iraq, on
April 14, 2008

Spc. Jeremiah C. Hughes
26
1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team
(Stryker), 25th Infantry Division
Jacksonville, Florida
Died of injuries sustained in a non-combat related incident in Abu
Gharab, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Sgt. Shaun P. Tousha
30
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Hull, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeffery L. Hartley
25
1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
3rd Infantry Division
Hempstead, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Kharguliah,
Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Spc. Jason C. Kazarick
30
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Oakmont, Pennsylvania
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Michael T. Lilly
23
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Boise, Idaho
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Maj. Mark E. Rosenberg
32
3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
4th Infantry Division
Miami Lakes, Florida
Killed when his wounds encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Timothy M. Smith
25
4th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th
Mountain Division
South Lake Tahoe, California
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 7, 2008

Sgt. Richard A. Vaughn
22
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
San Diego, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade, homemade bombs and small-arms fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 7, 2008

Capt. Ulises Burgos-Cruz
29
Military Transition Team, 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division
Puerto Rico
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeremiah E. McNeal
23
237th Engineer Company, 276th Engineer Battalion, 91st Troop Command,
Virginia Army National Guard
Norfolk, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 6, 2008

Spc. Matthew T. Morris
23
2nd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Cedar Park, Texas
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Pfc. Shane D. Penley
19
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Sauk Village, Illinois
Died of wounds suffered while on duty at a guard post at Patrol Base
Copper, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Emanuel Pickett
34
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Teachey, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked with indirect fire
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Col. Stephen K. Scott
54
356th Quartermaster Battalion
New Market, Alabama
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Maj. Stuart A. Wolfer
36
11th Battalion, 104th Division
Coral Springs, Florida
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Travis L. Griffin
28
377th Security Forces Squadron, 377th Mission Support Group, 377th Air
Base Wing
Dover, Delaware
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 3, 2008

Afghanistan - The Forgotten War

There have been 793 coalition deaths -- 492 Americans, 5 Australians,
94 Britons, 82 Canadians, 2 Czech, 14 Danes, 16 Dutch, two Estonians,
one Finn, 12 French, 22 Germans, 11 Italians, three Norwegians, three
Poles, two Portuguese, 6 Romanians, one South Korean, 23 Spaniards,
two Swedes -- in the war on terror as of May 2, 2008, according to a
CNN count. Below are the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen and
sailors whose deaths have been reported by their country's
governments. The troops died in support of the U.S.-led Operation
Enduring Freedom or were part of the NATO-led International Security
Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. At least 1,937 U.S. personnel
have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon
April 2008

Sgt. 1st Class David L. McDowell
30
2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment
Ramona, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using small-arms
fire in Baston, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Senior Airman Jonathan A. V. Yelner
24
28th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron
Lafayette, California
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Bagram, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jason Marks
27
4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (Commando)
Yeppoon, Queensland, Australia
Killed during a firefight with Taliban fighters approximately 15.5
miles (25 kilometers) southeast of Tarin Kowt in Oruzgan province,
Afghanistan, on April 28, 2008

Trooper Robert Pearson
22
A Squadron, The Queen's Royal Lancers
Grimsby, England
Killed when his vehicle struck a suspected mine while his unit was
providing security for a resupply convoy returning to Camp Bastion in
Helmand province, Afghanistan, on April 21, 2008

Pfc. Mark Schouwink
22
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Lt. Dennis van Uhm
23
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Sgt. Luke J. Mercardante
35
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Athens, Georgia
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Cpl. Kyle W. Wilks
24
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Rogers, Arkansas
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Graham Livingstone
23
Support Weapons Flight, 3 Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment
Strathclyde, Scotland
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Gary Thompson
51
504 Squadron, Royal Auxiliary Air Force
Nottingham, England
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Pvt. Terry John Street
24
2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
Hull, Quebec, Canada
Killed when his armored vehicle struck a suspected roadside bomb in
the Panjwayi district in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, on April 4,
2008

Sgt. Nicholas A. Robertson
27
Headquarters Service Company, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group
Old Town, Maine
Died on April 3, 2008, at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in
Landstuhl, Germany, of wounds suffered during combat operations near
the Zahn Khan district in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on April 2

“Epidemic of Suicides”
Veterans Combat VA in Lawsuit Seeking Adequate and Timely Healthcare –
Closing Arguments

Civilian Casulties - Iraq

Just Foreign Policy Issues
Over a million {*1,205,025} Iraqis are estimated to have been killed
as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation. Learn More and
Take Action»
*Estimate, click for explaination .

To

John Hopkins School of Public Health { October 11, 2006 report } puts
the count at 650,000, with a range from 400,000 to 900,000.

Exact Count of Civilian Casulties may never be known, as is the case
in every conflict, especially an Invasion by another Country. For it
is the Innocent Civilians and those Defending their Countries {of
which All would be counted if this land were ever invaded} who suffer
the most, during and long after!

Iraq Refugees UNHCR: UNHCR Global Appeal 2008-2009 - Iraq Situation
Filetype: PDF (116k)

All the Deaths, Maimings and Destruction are the Blood on All Our
Hands, No One can escape the Guilt!

March 2008, Febuary 2008, January 2008, December 2007, November 2007,
October 2007, September 2007, August 2007, July 2007, June 2007, May
2007, April 2007, March 2007, Feb. 2007, Jan. 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004,
2003

You can view other Honor Rolls of the Fallen I have posted on my site
{links above}, or from the CNN link at top and the other sources that
you might use or know about.

As Of May 3 2008, There Are 85 Pages w/5 'Silent Honor Rolls' Each,
Number Of Casulties Varies With Each 'Silent Honor Roll'; Many now
have numbers in the teens and twenties, click on graphic.

A Nations Security Does Not Mean A Nation Sets An Example Of Creating
More Hatreds And Enemies By 'Wars Of Choice'
, Nor By Installing And Supporting Dictators, It Leads By The Example
Of Peace And Prevention, Especially As A Democracy, Gaining Friends
And Supporters, And Defends With Force Only When All Other Options Are
Exhausted

97 percent of U.S. deaths in Iraq have occurred after George W. Bush
declared an end to "major combat."
”Mission Accomplished!”

We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want
to dismiss that as "success" that would be your interpretation.
Chuck Hagel

If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to
die, they are too many!

Is 'Funding' Really For Troops?

What Happened To Funding and Oversite For Military/Veteran Care In
Previous Congresses?

Those who take some sort of relief in the "We are fighting them over
there so we won't be fighting them here!", Better Rethink their
Future, or rather their Childrens Future!!

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is," - George W. Bush, Texas
Gov., 1999
" What does it matter to the dead, the orphan, and the homeless
whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
- Mohandas K. Gandhi

The Failed Policies will Haunt Us and the World for Decades!!

http://imagineaworldof.blogspot.com/2008/05/honoring-fallen-us-milita...
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-07 08:49:39 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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